tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9093436161326155359.post3657831786425920527..comments2024-03-28T06:43:02.954+00:00Comments on Variable Variability: Greens, progressives: No, Clinton and Trump are not the sameVictor Venemahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9093436161326155359.post-13137517300292126442020-01-23T15:11:26.792+00:002020-01-23T15:11:26.792+00:00tonyb: "As It is, I think Hillary will win. H...tonyb: "<i>As It is, I think Hillary will win. However, before you go to bed tonight I think you need to take a couple of tranquilisers just in case the 'wrong' result happens.</i>" <br /><br />It is a bit late, but may I rub this prediction in, dear apothecary assistant? Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9093436161326155359.post-64614658599932223262016-11-08T16:28:47.136+00:002016-11-08T16:28:47.136+00:00I am not sure I would call Nixon a bad presidentia...I am not sure I would call Nixon a bad presidential 'candidate'. He went bad ONCE president, although his work with China can not be forgotten.<br /><br />Barry Goldwater was up against the instantly forgettable Lyndon Johnson. So, yes he was a poor candidate. <br /><br />Looking at the long list of Presidents and nominees for the position over the last 50 years or so, it must be said that America consistently underperforms when it comes to leaders. <br /><br />However, this current pair must be the worst by a comfortable distance. Will either of them get through two terms without being impeached?<br /><br />Don't forget the tranquilisers tonight. If Trump triumphs (unlikely) have you anyone who can wake you gently with the news?? :)<br /><br />tonyb<br /><br />tonybhttp://climatereason.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9093436161326155359.post-71496524245656251532016-11-08T11:24:53.213+00:002016-11-08T11:24:53.213+00:00How about Nixon or Goldwater? Or for your camp: Al...How about Nixon or Goldwater? Or for your camp: Al Gore.<br /><br />Any other Republican candidate and Clinton would have lost bigly.<br /><br />Any other Democratic candidate and Trump would have lost bigly.Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9093436161326155359.post-31209388464884745522016-11-08T07:50:32.879+00:002016-11-08T07:50:32.879+00:00Well Victor, that was a rant and a half! Do I gath...Well Victor, that was a rant and a half! Do I gather that you hope Trump doesn't win? You mustn't be so circumspect about it...:)<br /><br />So do I. Mind you I hope Hillary doesn't win either.<br /><br />How a first world nation of some 320 million people can produce two such appalling candidates is amazing. They are certainly the worst two in my lifetime. <br /><br />If the Republicans had picked someone better you can't help feeling they would have been well ahead as Hillary is so detested.<br /><br />If I was American I am not sure I could bring myself to vote, which would be the first time I had ever failed to vote in a major election.<br /><br />I suspect that Trumps momentum was stopped a few days ago with the FBI statement. Until then Trump had a reasonable chance, especially as there is likely to be a 4% Brexit' type vote for him<br /><br />As It is, I think Hillary will win. However, before you go to bed tonight I think you need to take a couple of tranquilisers just in case the 'wrong' result happens. <br />tonyb<br /><br />tonybhttp://climatereason.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9093436161326155359.post-69970924847639098622016-11-05T22:39:42.027+00:002016-11-05T22:39:42.027+00:00Never has it been more appropriate than now to par...Never has it been more appropriate than now to parallel the current affairs with what happened in the 1930s in Germany. It's scary to witness how close we've come to a "history repeated" scenario. A scenario in which a large fraction of the population just doesn't realise where this is going. The danger of fascism was greatly underestimated back then and I strongly believe that most of us today (including most progressives) have the same sense of false security. It's simple: If Trump wins, the world as we know it isn't anymore. It will affect all of us.KarSteNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16117301462523147860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9093436161326155359.post-78832960009116091382016-11-05T15:54:41.298+00:002016-11-05T15:54:41.298+00:00Here's a couple to add to your reading suggest...Here's a couple to add to your reading suggestions:<br /><br />How the Media Manufactured Hatred of Hillary Clinton<br />By Neal Gabler | October 25, 2016 | Moyers and Company<br />http://billmoyers.com/story/last-night-3/<br /><br />THE GEORGE W. BUSH WHITE HOUSE ‘LOST’ 22 MILLION EMAILS<br />BY Nina Burleigh | 9/12/16<br />http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373.htmlcitizenschallengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559990934735912814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9093436161326155359.post-7766361840250543002016-11-05T15:07:28.175+00:002016-11-05T15:07:28.175+00:00Third Party can't happen by electing one man t...Third Party can't happen by electing one man to President anyways. For a third party to be viable they need to have representatives throughout the government. I think in America the best chance for a Third party would be one born out of a schism within either the Republican (Tea Party?) or Democratic Party (Greens?)<br /><br />For instance in this election, Bernie Sander will become a powerful force if Hillary Clinton is elected - if Clinton loses, he'd back to first base. So I can't understand why any Sander's supporters would not vote for Hillary, because it truly is another vote for Bernie. <br /><br />As opposed to a vote for utter delusion which Trump and those neo-Republicans promise us.Peter Mieslerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17402362928953253739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9093436161326155359.post-7665620194309546372016-11-05T15:06:38.988+00:002016-11-05T15:06:38.988+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Peter Mieslerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17402362928953253739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9093436161326155359.post-11862558002461332302016-11-05T03:57:25.360+00:002016-11-05T03:57:25.360+00:00Yes, the American electoral system is terrible. I ...Yes, the American electoral system is terrible. I like representative parliamentary democracies. That means that many more voices are represented in parliament and debated in public. Many more people feel part of the democracy that way.<br /><br />Voting for a third party does not change this. In best best case it replaces one party by another and if the rules do not change in the USA that new party would soon become just as corrupt. In the worst case you get the man-eating lizard. Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9093436161326155359.post-67024249024213754962016-11-05T03:44:03.255+00:002016-11-05T03:44:03.255+00:00I understand the arguments above but I am also rem...I understand the arguments above but I am also reminded of the following passage from "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish".<br /><br />“It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."<br />"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"<br />"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."<br />"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."<br />"I did," said Ford. "It is."<br />"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't people get rid of the lizards?"<br />"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."<br />"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"<br />"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."<br />"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"<br />"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"<br />"What?"<br />"I said," said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, "have you got any gin?"<br />"I'll look. Tell me about the lizards."<br />Ford shrugged again.<br />"Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happenned to them," he said. "They're completely wrong of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone's got to say it."<br />"But that's terrible," said Arthur.<br />"Listen, bud," said Ford, "if I had one Altairian dollar for every time I heard one bit of the Universe look at another bit of the Universe and say 'That's terrible' I wouldn't be sitting here like a lemon looking for a gin.”FEDuphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07478998514425153686noreply@blogger.com